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Seat Belts?

Postby dboeshaar » Thu Dec 14, 2023 9:36 pm

I can see how the inside seat belts attach to the center but how do I bolt the outside seat belts?

Do I drill a hole in the fuselage and put the bolts on the outside?

Pictures?

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Re: Seat Belts?

Postby Bryan Cotton » Thu Dec 14, 2023 10:01 pm

Not sure if the classic and desirable A model is the same, but I think maybe mine has a bolt through the side. It's hidden by the wing. I'll take a picture next time I'm at the hangar.

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Re: Seat Belts?

Postby Bryan Cotton » Thu Dec 14, 2023 10:50 pm

I'm pretty sure the bolt goes through the side and the bolt head is outside under the wing.
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Re: Seat Belts?

Postby dboeshaar » Fri Dec 15, 2023 12:16 am

Yup!

That is exactly how it looks. I forgot it is hidden by the wing.

Thanx!

Bryan Cotton wrote:I'm pretty sure the bolt goes through the side and the bolt head is outside under the wing.
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Re: Seat Belts?

Postby BobDz » Fri Dec 15, 2023 3:32 pm

So should I get my seat belts sooner, rather than later?
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Re: Seat Belts?

Postby dboeshaar » Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:22 pm

BobDz wrote:So should I get my seat belts sooner, rather than later?


Crow Safety sells Custom Seat belts for the Sonex. Regular automotive buckle. If you are not aerobatic, they look good to me. I got the shoulder pads too.

https://crowsafetygear.com

They do sell the Kam Lock for the RV line, so maybe they can custom build something for our aerobatic pilots.

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Re: Seat Belts?

Postby Bryan Cotton » Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:32 pm

My Sonex belts are pretty automotive looking, except there are metal loops that the lap tang goes through before it goes into the buckle. So in theory if you pull the buckle to release it, the shoulder harnesses get released too. Those are fine for aerobatics though they are no longer available.

Do the Crow shoulder harnesses have loops that the lap belts thread through? Hard to tell from the picture.
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Re: Seat Belts?

Postby Bryan Cotton » Fri Dec 15, 2023 11:33 pm

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Re: Seat Belts?

Postby Area 51% » Sat Dec 16, 2023 11:24 am

BobDz wrote:So should I get my seat belts sooner, rather than later?


Are you looking to use belts/harnesses other than what's supplied in the kit?
At least I assume the "B" kits come with restraints.
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Re: Seat Belts?

Postby Bryan Cotton » Sat Dec 16, 2023 11:39 am

Randy,
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