Aeroconversion brake performance?

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Re: Aeroconversion brake performance?

Postby Bryan Cotton » Sat Nov 19, 2022 10:24 pm

13brv3 wrote:Thanks for the video. I'm pretty sure I'd notice that, but I'll look for any looseness this week.
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I can tell you we checked that wheel with weight on it and it seemed perfect. The reason I figured it out was my brakes were poor and there is a downhill from the pump to my hangar. I shut down the engine to eliminate thrust and I could hear unhappy bearings.
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Re: Aeroconversion brake performance?

Postby pfhoeycfi » Sun Nov 20, 2022 8:26 am

The issue I seem to be having is that after having bled the brakes many times I find a bubble or two soon after, half inch or so in length, in the tubing near the outlet of the master cylinder. My tubing seems good all around, not quite sure why this is happening. When bleeding the brakes I pump up from the brakes and overflow into a jar at the MC.
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Re: Aeroconversion brake performance?

Postby Area 51% » Sun Nov 20, 2022 10:13 am

Bryan....did that take care of your shimmy?

Peter....do you have a fluid reservoir? If not, I can send you a picture of what I had. Never had bubbles after I installed it.
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Re: Aeroconversion brake performance?

Postby pfhoeycfi » Sun Nov 20, 2022 10:45 am

Area 51% wrote:Bryan....did that take care of your shimmy?

Peter....do you have a fluid reservoir? If not, I can send you a picture of what I had. Never had bubbles after I installed it.


Nothing more than the fluid that in the aeroconversion master cylinder.
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Re: Aeroconversion brake performance?

Postby Bryan Cotton » Sun Nov 20, 2022 12:56 pm

Area 51% wrote:Bryan....did that take care of your shimmy?

Nope. I still get it if my touchdown isn't perfect. No issue on grass and full stall landings straight ahead seem to be the best approach.
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Re: Aeroconversion brake performance?

Postby WaiexN143NM » Mon Nov 21, 2022 1:08 am

Hi bryan,
a few things that may be causing your shimmy

1) are the bearing races fully seated in the wheels?
2) have you tried glass beads in the tires ?
3) affixing something to back side of gear leg i.e.
oak wood strip, or we used the flyboys wood gear strips wrapped w glass.


we had some shimmy but no more. good luck on your phase one flying.

best,

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Re: Aeroconversion brake performance?

Postby Bryan Cotton » Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:55 am

Answers in bold, in the quoted text:
WaiexN143NM wrote:Hi bryan,
a few things that may be causing your shimmy

1) are the bearing races fully seated in the wheels? They are now! As reported in my thread.
2) have you tried glass beads in the tires ? I have not. On takeoff, at high speed and with weight on the gear, I get no shimmy or unbalance.
3) affixing something to back side of gear leg i.e. oak wood strip, or we used the flyboys wood gear strips wrapped w glass. I've not tried this yet. It is a possibility.It will be a pain because that is where my formed brake lines are.


we had some shimmy but no more. good luck on your phase one flying.

best,

michael.
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Re: Aeroconversion brake performance?

Postby Tnhelm » Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:09 am

I would like to see the modification to the master cylinder reservoir to help eliminate air bubbles.
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Re: Aeroconversion brake performance?

Postby builderflyer » Mon Nov 21, 2022 11:53 am

pfhoeycfi wrote:
Area 51% wrote:Bryan....did that take care of your shimmy?

Peter....do you have a fluid reservoir? If not, I can send you a picture of what I had. Never had bubbles after I installed it.


Nothing more than the fluid that in the aeroconversion master cylinder.


A simple way of obtaining additional master cylinder capacity is by adding a "standpipe" utilizing hardware store bought parts as shown in the attached photo. The standpipe screws into the hole where the plug used to be and in addition to the increased capacity, it allows for a bit easier monitoring of the fluid level.

Art,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Sonex taildragger #95,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Jabiru 3300 #261
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Re: Aeroconversion brake performance?

Postby Bryan Cotton » Mon Nov 21, 2022 2:32 pm

If only that standpipe was transparent...
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