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Re: Airworthiness inspection questions

Postby NWade » Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:36 pm

Thank you for the effort you put into producing these, Joe!

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Re: Airworthiness inspection questions

Postby Bryan Cotton » Sat Jan 01, 2022 5:49 pm

Ok, I know I'm the slowest finisher in the history of homebuilding.

I just watched Joe's video, and one thing I'd like to confirm - it sounds like you still have to mail in all your registration stuff via the post office, and then you do the application for the AWC online. Is that right?

Joe, the EAA email on your video doesn't work. Basically said that it was blocked.

Edit - one more question. Is my serial number 001 because this is my first Waiex, or 191 because that is my Sonex serial number?

Ok, two more questions. Should the type be Cotton - Waiex or Cotton - Sonex Waiex?
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Re: Airworthiness inspection questions

Postby Scott Todd » Sat Jan 01, 2022 8:09 pm

As the original builder, it can be anything you want:) I think its customary to use the SN issued by Sonex, but again, you can do what you like. The same goes with type. It can be what you want. I know Several Van's builders that wanted the name Van's included but I tend to NOT use the kit supplier's name. Your name will be the Manufacture so it doesn't need to be in the type. Its also pretty easy to look at N numbers other people post to see what they did.

The same goes with the engine. I have two AeroVees. One uses my name as the model and the other uses AeroVee.
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Re: Airworthiness inspection questions

Postby 13brv3 » Sat Jan 01, 2022 8:56 pm

The video did confirm a few guesses I made in my application, so thanks for that Joe. I'm at the uploading documents step, and I'm wondering what people are using for the program letter? I was trying to find something recent, and this is what I found at the FAA site:
http://www.faa-aircraft-certification.c ... letter.pdf

This is all pretty straightforward except for section 3 - "Describe Program Purpose for which the aircraft is to be used". Is there a known acceptable statement for amateur testing?

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Re: Airworthiness inspection questions

Postby wlarson861 » Sun Jan 02, 2022 12:52 am

one more question. Is my serial number 001 because this is my first Waiex, or 191 because that is my Sonex serial number?


Bryan;
If you are building a kit you should have a signed bill of sale. On mine the serial number and Sonex's info were filled in and signed. You need to use that bill of sale for registration.
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Re: Airworthiness inspection questions

Postby Sonerai13 » Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:04 am

Bryan Cotton wrote:
Gripdana wrote:I have the EAA certification kit.

Old post, I know. I can't find the EAA cerification kit on their website. Anybody have a suggestion?


https://www.eaa.org/shop/product-detail ... pr=2583379

It's in the "Books and Media" section. This link should take you right there.
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Re: Airworthiness inspection questions

Postby 13brv3 » Sun Jan 02, 2022 11:21 am

The EAA also sells some products through Amazon. Looks like this was published in 2009, so probably the same as the one I bought a few years ago. Hopefully they're working on a post AWC portal version.
https://www.amazon.com/Amateur-Built-Certification-Experimental-Aircraft-Association/dp/1734133074/

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Re: Airworthiness inspection questions

Postby Rynoth » Sun Jan 02, 2022 1:43 pm

wlarson861 wrote:
one more question. Is my serial number 001 because this is my first Waiex, or 191 because that is my Sonex serial number?


Bryan;
If you are building a kit you should have a signed bill of sale. On mine the serial number and Sonex's info were filled in and signed. You need to use that bill of sale for registration.


I had to contact Sonex to receive my bill of sale when I was ready to register. They mentioned that they often don't include it with the kit shipment due to the likelihood of it getting lost/misplaced during the build.
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Re: Airworthiness inspection questions

Postby Bryan Cotton » Sun Jan 02, 2022 2:44 pm

Thanks all. I did buy the EAA kit a while ago, I think Graham posted the link for me last spring. I did get a bill of sale from Sonex. It looks like my actual S/N is W0191.
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Re: Airworthiness inspection questions

Postby Sonerai13 » Sun Jan 02, 2022 6:01 pm

13brv3 wrote:Hopefully they're working on a post AWC portal version.


Already done. One of the last things I did as an EAA employee was to help update the Amateur-Built Certification Kit to include info on working through the AWC system. If you have purchased a kit in the last year or so it should have the AWC info in it.

You can also view my webinar on the AWC system, at this link:

https://www.eaa.org/videos/6160355187001
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