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Re: accident 1H6 tulsa ok.

Postby Bryan Cotton » Wed Sep 08, 2021 7:53 pm

WaiexN143NM wrote:wishing the pilot a speedy recovery.

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The comments were painful to read in general. Lots wrong there. They also say the pilot died after surgery.
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Re: accident 1H6 tulsa ok.

Postby WaiexN143NM » Wed Sep 08, 2021 9:22 pm

Hi bryan , all,
Yes i saw that too. i didnt want to say it because i couldnt confirm it.

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Re: accident 1H6 tulsa ok.

Postby radfordc » Thu Sep 09, 2021 12:14 pm

Pilot reported to not have any licence, no training, no airworthiness cert, plane out of CG, etc.

https://youtu.be/pkw07gWqSMg
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Re: accident 1H6 tulsa ok.

Postby WaiexN143NM » Thu Sep 09, 2021 1:46 pm

Hi all,

Thanks charlie for posting this. Not sure if juan browne has something out yet too. will look.
Thanks to Dan gryder for this report.
Very sad indeed. eric mcCray 41. yes confirmed he died.
dans report shows the aircraft back to airport and hangar. very graphic.

We can only do so much. as mr g did at 1H6 a few hangars down. Did Mr eric mcray think this was an ultralite?
didnt need a license? dont know his knowledge level in aviation.

Sadly i see more and more of this everyday. its even up into the turboprop and bizjet ops too.
lack of current medical.
type rating
currency
aircraft in annual/ condition inspection
ifr currency
ifr aircraft checks
biannual
insurance
registration

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accident 1H6 tulsa ok.

Postby Carlos Trigo » Fri Sep 10, 2021 10:10 am

radfordc wrote:Pilot reported to not have any licence, no training, no airworthiness cert, plane out of CG, etc.

https://youtu.be/pkw07gWqSMg

How do they know that this aircraft is “out of CG”?
Just for being an homebuilt airplane that he doesn’t even know the correct name of it?
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accident 1H6 tulsa ok.

Postby Carlos Trigo » Fri Sep 10, 2021 10:21 am

I don’t know who this Dan Gryder is, and what is his knowledge about aviation, especially light and home built aircraft, but being a “youtuber “ certainly isn’t the right credentials….
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Re: accident 1H6 tulsa ok.

Postby XenosN42 » Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:31 am

Carlos Trigo wrote:How do they know that this aircraft is “out of CG”? Just for being an homebuilt airplane that he doesn’t even know the correct name of it?


In the YouTube video Mr. Gryder refers to a Mr. G who has a hanger at that airport and spoke to the pilot who died. The following is a post by Mr. G. on Kathryn's Report

Unlicensed pilot. Was doing high-speed runs last week without lifting off. Advised him about the importance of balance on that shortly-coupled airframe, yet it was not ascertained physically, or on paper. He walked around, lifted the Vtail up on the belly wheel...I've tried to explain C.G. location, and the wheel is NOT the C.G. . His departure stall occurred a mere few hundred feet beyond the end of the runway . MAIDEN FLIGHT for an untrained pilot.
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Re: accident 1H6 tulsa ok.

Postby Matt541 » Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:33 am

Carlos Trigo wrote:I don’t know who this Dan Gryder is, and what is his knowledge about aviation, especially light and home built aircraft, but being a “youtuber “ certainly isn’t the right credentials….


Ahem...

From his site:
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Re: accident 1H6 tulsa ok.

Postby Bryan Cotton » Fri Sep 10, 2021 12:13 pm

It seems he knows nothing about experimental aviation though, based on his original comments vs what he read off of Kathryn's report. That was my impression.
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Re: accident 1H6 tulsa ok.

Postby WaiexN143NM » Fri Sep 10, 2021 12:30 pm

Hi all,
Thanks michael and matt.
FYI- i emailed katherynsreport sept 6 to inform them it was a moni not a waiex as their narrative stated.
they corrected their post the next day. with a n number, but not sure if that registration is still valid, up to date.

Dan is a well know figure. his credentials back up his name. yes maybe before making the video should have done more research on the correct name and model. and disparaging experimentals or homebuilts not good. most of the innovation
in aviation lately has come out of the homebuilt sector, which has filtered over into production aircraft.

RIP Mr Eric McCray

an avoidible tragedy


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