Even-ing up the mixture and other thoughts

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Even-ing up the mixture and other thoughts

Postby GraemeSmith » Wed Feb 26, 2020 11:17 am

So I'm currently grinding in a new exhaust valve on No 4. Compression went to pretty much zero - just like that.

With the head off it was pretty apparent the edge of the valve had started to erode. Fortunately the valve seat was OK. Further digging - in the (EMPI) head - there was a significant casting "ridge" in the exhaust port (not present in the No 3 end). And the port itself was narrower than the gasket by a fair amount. Not at the No 3 end. So I'm thinking restricted exhaust flow got the valve hotter than optimal. EGT's were not suggesting anything however.

So I've ported and polished the No 4 end of the casting to get rid of the ridge and to "gasket match" the gasket and exhaust pipe. Some matching polishing in the other end to try and keep things even. No real metal removal required at that end.

Just waiting for the mail man with the new exhaust valves.

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So....... Let's go street car racing a moment. Look harder at the inlet side of things. You know - no street car mechanic would allow this mismatch between the red manifold (rectangular holes) and the aluminum (round) ports.

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Street wisdom would have it that the mixture being delivered though the rectangular inlet - hitting the flat edges of the round holes in the ports would tumble and be restricted and inlet flow would be compromised. On the street - you would remove aluminum from the round holes till they were a rectangular match for the inlet manifold. Remove restriction, improve flow, more power. Usually this simple mod, with matching polishing of the inlet casting, would get 10% more power.

So let's take this a little further - could I try differential porting - making one hole match and not the other - to improve the differential mixture the engine suffers from and so even up the CHT and EGT's? Power improvement would be less of a factor (though there would be some). Getting all four cylinders to burn equally and so smooth the engine out would be a better longer term aim.

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Two thoughts against:

- Over porting can actually decrease the inlet mixture speed.

- Perhaps the mismatch of the rectangle to round holes is a deliberate "design" way to increase mixture "tumbling" to get a more even mixture?

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Anyone?
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Re: Even-ing up the mixture and other thoughts

Postby Area 51% » Thu Feb 27, 2020 1:40 pm

Check out Great Plains intake manifolds. The ports are a very good match and they have a divider cast between the ports. They have a shape that doesn't require the fuel/air mixture to come to a stop, then back-up to get into the rear cylinders. The geometry is the same as the supplied intakes. I have a set on our yet to be run engine.

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Re: Even-ing up the mixture and other thoughts

Postby GraemeSmith » Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:00 pm

Pic - no - had a look online - I'll give them a try. Lot cheaper than my time to port the inlets to match the Sonex intake and maybe booger up a head.
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Re: Even-ing up the mixture and other thoughts

Postby bvolcko38 » Fri Feb 28, 2020 10:19 am

I was frustrated by big differences between front and rear egts. Then on recommendation from this list I put on the Great Planes intake manifolds. Egts evened our dramatically. I had to trim about an inch off the GP intakes. Money well spent.
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Re: Even-ing up the mixture and other thoughts

Postby dirkverdonck » Sat Feb 29, 2020 3:56 am

Hi,
I did the same thing, cut about 3 cm and bolted it on.
Also, it is easier to remove the rear spark plug!
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Re: Even-ing up the mixture and other thoughts

Postby GraemeSmith » Sat Feb 29, 2020 5:00 am

dirkverdonck wrote:Also, it is easier to remove the rear spark plug!

That alone has to be worth the price! What a PIA it is to check plugs with the Aeroconversions manifold - having to remove it just to get at the plug
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Re: Even-ing up the mixture and other thoughts

Postby Bryan Cotton » Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:32 am

GraemeSmith wrote:
dirkverdonck wrote:Also, it is easier to remove the rear spark plug!

That alone has to be worth the price! What a PIA it is to check plugs with the Aeroconversions manifold - having to remove it just to get at the plug

Odd, I can remove my plugs with the manifolds on.
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Re: Even-ing up the mixture and other thoughts

Postby Bryan Cotton » Sat Feb 29, 2020 6:05 pm

Regarding evening up the mixture, here is some interesting reading. Lutorm's blog:
https://blog.familjenjonsson.org/blog/2 ... ew-intake/

More discussion:

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3725
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Re: Even-ing up the mixture and other thoughts

Postby GraemeSmith » Sun Mar 01, 2020 10:48 am

Bryan Cotton wrote:Regarding evening up the mixture, here is some interesting reading. Lutorm's blog:
https://blog.familjenjonsson.org/blog/2 ... ew-intake/
More discussion:
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3725

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Re: Even-ing up the mixture and other thoughts

Postby Onex107 » Mon Mar 02, 2020 12:30 pm

Bryan Cotton wrote:
GraemeSmith wrote:
dirkverdonck wrote:Also, it is easier to remove the rear spark plug!

That alone has to be worth the price! What a PIA it is to check plugs with the Aeroconversions manifold - having to remove it just to get at the plug

Odd, I can remove my plugs with the manifolds on.

Me too.
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