Center stick conversion

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Center stick conversion

Postby Josonex » Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:45 pm

Hello Everyone,
I’m new to sonex builders hoping for help with a conversion.
I’m currently flying a sonex that I bought a few years ago. It came in a dual stick configuration.
Im thinking about changing it to a single center stick. What would be the process? Would I have to remove the wings?
Thanks!!
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Re: Center stick conversion

Postby peter anson » Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:46 am

You must have a good reason for wanting to change. Parts that I can think of: New single control yoke, new seat and two new aileron push-rods which are longer than the dual control push-rods.
You will need to remove the wings to change over the push-rods.

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Re: Center stick conversion

Postby GordonTurner » Fri Sep 27, 2019 10:01 am

John Gillis did this I think
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Re: Center stick conversion

Postby sonex1374 » Fri Sep 27, 2019 10:38 am

John Gillis did in fact convert his Waiex to center stick, and he fabricated short "pushrod extenders" to adapt his existing dual-stick (e.g. shorter) aileron pushrods to the new center stick. The extenders thread onto the existing pushrods and then attach like normal to the center stick control triangle (and you don't need to pull the wings for this). Other that this, as mentioned you'll need a new seat pan and upholstery (or modify the upholstery perhaps). All in all, it's not that hard.

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Re: Center stick conversion

Postby Josonex » Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:15 am

I’ve had this sonex going on 2years. Logged 51hrs. 100% solo. I have wide shoulders (fat) so I was hoping to get a little more comfort. I have the parts from a half kit I have not yet started. I’m new to the idea of building so,I’m a little nervous about changing anything, maybe this forum and a few sonex fly-ins will Inspire me.
Thanks Everyone!!


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Re: Center stick conversion

Postby fastj22 » Fri Sep 27, 2019 10:51 pm

Both Gary motley and I converted our dual sticks to center. Gary replaced his push rod, I got lazy and made extensions. Replacing requires you pull the wings. The tricky part is if you have the lowered seat. It requires a fabricated elevator pushrod that drops below the seat. The new B model already has this.

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Re: Center stick conversion

Postby Josonex » Sat Sep 28, 2019 3:00 pm

Thanks John!
Got any pictures or a site I can look at?
I don’t know if I have a lowered seat, however I do need a booster chair to look over
The nose(glad I kept mine)
Jorge...
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Re: Center stick conversion

Postby fastj22 » Sun Sep 29, 2019 4:58 am

The lowered seat has a “tent” or “hat” protecting the push rod from your butt where the seat belts attach. I think the lowered seat is standard on the Waiex and optional on the Sonex A model. B model has a a whole new and improved seat pan. With the lowered seat, they moved the elevator push rod to the center and it will interfere with the ailerons. That’s why you need to fabricate a new one that drops down to clear them.

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Re: Center stick conversion

Postby Josonex » Mon Sep 30, 2019 9:19 am

Great information John,
I don’t think I have that. I currently on the road. I’ll check when I get home
Tomorrow.
Thanks again.
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