Two CHT, two EGT - which to monitor

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Two CHT, two EGT - which to monitor

Postby Bryan Cotton » Sun Jan 27, 2019 12:34 pm

All,
My AlphaMFD can monitor two of each using type Ks. Should I monitor the rear two cylinders?
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Re: Two CHT, two EGT - which to monitor

Postby mike.smith » Sun Jan 27, 2019 2:23 pm

If I had to choose, that would be my choice, as they will typically run the hottest.
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Re: Two CHT, two EGT - which to monitor

Postby lutorm » Sun Jan 27, 2019 5:03 pm

Yeah, I'd agree with Mike, certainly for CHT. Although it would be interesting to have a front and back EGT since that's where the big mixture difference is. If you only have EGTs for the back two, you have no idea how pig rich the fronts are running...
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Re: Two CHT, two EGT - which to monitor

Postby Bryan Cotton » Sun Jan 27, 2019 8:32 pm

So I bought my exhaust used, and it had 4 EGTs before. How should I seal up the extra holes? I could weld them but it could be fun to move the probes around.
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Re: Two CHT, two EGT - which to monitor

Postby woodmw » Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:59 pm

Could you install 4 probes and incorporate a switch to change between front and back?
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Re: Two CHT, two EGT - which to monitor

Postby wlarson861 » Mon Jan 28, 2019 1:33 am

my Jabiru exhaust had the egt holes drilled and then filled with stainless steel rivets. Looks like they intended the engine could be run with out EGT's if the owner wished.
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Re: Two CHT, two EGT - which to monitor

Postby builderflyer » Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:11 am

Bryan,

The extra holes in my exhaust are filled with CP-42 rivets. No noticeable leakage and then easily drilled out if I want to move the probes around, just to see what the difference is in EGT.

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Re: Two CHT, two EGT - which to monitor

Postby Bryan Cotton » Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:52 pm

woodmw wrote:Could you install 4 probes and incorporate a switch to change between front and back?

The one issue I see is that the switch is unlikely to be chromel-alumel. This could introduce errors. I suppose you could argue that going from chromel to copper and back should be a net zero voltage. Has anybody done this in practice?
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Re: Two CHT, two EGT - which to monitor

Postby peter anson » Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:44 pm

The problem I see with only monitoring two cylinders is that it's impossible to know which cylinders are the hottest. The coolest running head on my Jab 3300 engine is the rearmost, coincidentally the one that is most often monitored on engines that only have one CHT gauge. In fact, I have a theory, totally unverified, that the reason some Jabiru engines in Australia have had valve failures is because they are monitoring CHT on the wrong head.
Why not just fit another gauge?

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Re: Two CHT, two EGT - which to monitor

Postby Corby202 » Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:56 pm

I would recommend monitoring all 4. Aircraft Spruce sell changeover switch's.
On my 2.2 Jab, on the ground the two rear cylinders (cht) are the hottest, this changes over during flight, not by much but it does change.
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