Parking Brake for AeroConversions Hydraulic Brakes

Use this area for aviation related general discussions, newsworthy items, and non model specific topics.

Re: Parking Brake for AeroConversions Hydraulic Brakes

Postby racaldwell » Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:24 am

For a brake bleeder, I use a garden type pressure tank normally used for bug spray or something. I cut the spray nozzle off and adapted a PVC tube to fit the brake bleeder vavle on the bottom of the brake caliper. I also have a ball valve on the PVC tube out of the tank. I pump up pressure in the plastic tank, connect the tube to the bleeder port and open the valve. Blake fluid flows up into everything, including the top reservoir. Yep, need a tube and catch container at the top for the excess. Close everything off, pump the brake pedal and if air is in there, repeat the process until a firm pedal.

Rick Caldwell
Xenos 0057
racaldwell
 
Posts: 400
Joined: Thu May 22, 2014 4:52 pm

Re: Parking Brake for AeroConversions Hydraulic Brakes

Postby WaiexN143NM » Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:14 pm

wes,
the dorman part number for the self bleed brakes is #12703.1/4 -28. #12704 is 5/16-24.
i used #12703 , which screws into a brass fitting which screws into the sonex red alum brake housing .

hope this helps......

WaiexN143NM
Michael
WaiexN143NM
 
Posts: 1206
Joined: Mon Sep 15, 2014 1:04 am
Location: palm springs CA

Re: Parking Brake for AeroConversions Hydraulic Brakes

Postby WesRagle » Sun Oct 21, 2018 11:33 am

Thanks Guys,

Sounds like a top down or bottom up approach. I assume that the bottom up approach will only work with the standard bleeders.?.?
I'll try the top down first.

WaiexN143NM wrote:wes,
the dorman part number for the self bleed brakes is #12703.1/4 -28. #12704 is 5/16-24.
i used #12703 , which screws into a brass fitting which screws into the sonex red alum brake housing .

hope this helps......

WaiexN143NM
Michael


Yes Michael, that helps, thank you! Just ordered from AutoZone (not available for store pickup).

Wes
Wes Ragle
Onex #89
Conventional Gear
Long Tips
Hummel 2400 w/Zenith Carb
Prince P Tip 54x50
First Flight 06/23/2020
42.8 Hrs. as of 10/30/21
WesRagle
 
Posts: 900
Joined: Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:35 pm
Location: Weatherford, Tx

Re: Parking Brake for AeroConversions Hydraulic Brakes

Postby drPete » Thu Oct 25, 2018 11:55 am

Going to try the Matco parking brake valve with toe brakes https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/lgpages/matcoPBVALVE.php?clickkey=7491
in a configuration shown following.

First time using iCloud for photo sharing, not certain the links are permanent.

Pete
Xenos-B s/n XNB0010
xenos.n25xb@gmail.com

Image
User avatar
drPete
 
Posts: 50
Joined: Sun Jul 17, 2016 9:55 pm
Location: Charleston, WV USA

Re: Parking Brake for AeroConversions Hydraulic Brakes

Postby WesRagle » Fri Oct 26, 2018 5:24 pm

Hi Guys,

Got some done on the Onex.

I couldn't get comfortable that the 3/16 tubing was going to survive inside the fairing. So, I split some 1/4" tubing and ran the 3/16 inside of that from the wheel up to airframe entry. Seemed the best entry spot was through the bottom, just behind the gear leg, just inside of the longeron.

Image
Image

The leaver type brake makes for a simple installation, as hydraulic brakes go.

Image

I've been sitting in the cockpit trying to sort out the ergonomics of trim, flaps, throttle, brake, and carb heat all on the left side. Just about ready to replace the temporary brake handle (used for bleeding) with the real deal so I can fit the parking brake bracket/angle. Seems the leaver only swings through about 10 angular degrees.

Image
Image

We'll See,

Wes
Wes Ragle
Onex #89
Conventional Gear
Long Tips
Hummel 2400 w/Zenith Carb
Prince P Tip 54x50
First Flight 06/23/2020
42.8 Hrs. as of 10/30/21
WesRagle
 
Posts: 900
Joined: Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:35 pm
Location: Weatherford, Tx

Re: Parking Brake for AeroConversions Hydraulic Brakes

Postby WesRagle » Fri Oct 26, 2018 11:31 pm

Guys,

I've been sitting in the cockpit. Mostly trying to figure out the location of the trim lever. But that is a different topic.

I got the brake lever installed and, providing I can find some suitable angle, will make the parking brake angle tomorrow.

I have some questions.

1) How much torque should I pull for the parking brake?
2) How do you guys make those cool looking finger grips in the control levers?
3) Does that plastic dip "stuff" work well? Does it hang on?

Thanks for Your Time,

Wes



Image
Wes Ragle
Onex #89
Conventional Gear
Long Tips
Hummel 2400 w/Zenith Carb
Prince P Tip 54x50
First Flight 06/23/2020
42.8 Hrs. as of 10/30/21
WesRagle
 
Posts: 900
Joined: Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:35 pm
Location: Weatherford, Tx

Re: Parking Brake for AeroConversions Hydraulic Brakes

Postby Bryan Cotton » Sat Oct 27, 2018 12:18 am

I used a holesaw to make my finger grips. Plus some sort of jig to keep the depth the same.
Bryan Cotton
Poplar Grove, IL C77
Waiex 191 N191YX
Taildragger, Aerovee, acro ailerons
dual sticks with sport trainer controls
Prebuilt spars and machined angle kit
Year 2 flying and approaching 200 hours December 23
User avatar
Bryan Cotton
 
Posts: 5496
Joined: Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:54 pm
Location: C77

Re: Parking Brake for AeroConversions Hydraulic Brakes

Postby Brett » Sat Oct 27, 2018 12:21 am

I used a half moon file and heat shrink... but now I have a 3d printer I might print some handles..

I have twin levers in that arrangement for individual brakes.. no runway excursions for me now in a high cross wind situation.
Sonex 1645
VH-VWS
Tailwheel
Former Aerovee Turbo
Rotax 912
Brett
 
Posts: 269
Joined: Tue Apr 08, 2014 3:49 am
Location: Geraldton W.A Australia

Re: Parking Brake for AeroConversions Hydraulic Brakes

Postby avee8r » Sat Oct 27, 2018 9:42 am

I also used a half round file to make the finger grip on my flap handle. I merely painted it handle to match other levers in the cockpit (black)

For the brake handle I purchased a rubber handle grip from McMaster Carr. It slid onto the handle with enough resistance that it won’t slide off. It too is black although they offer them in red too.

Now, I don’t have to look at which handle I’m pulling on. If it’s made of rubber (like the tires) its the brake handle. If its smooth metal (like the flaps) its the flap handle.

Happy Landings
John
N50NX
avee8r
 
Posts: 97
Joined: Sun Aug 12, 2012 11:30 am

Re: Parking Brake for AeroConversions Hydraulic Brakes

Postby WesRagle » Sat Oct 27, 2018 5:28 pm

Hi Guys,

I will have to make a McMaster order pretty soon. I'll see if I can find suitable grips. Sounds like the easy way out :-)

Got the parking brake angle in. Feels like it will work well. Just held the angle down by the leaver and pulled to what I thought would be a firm hold and made the notch there.

Image

So, unless it doesn't work as well as it feels like it will, end of story.

Thanks Guys,

Wes
Wes Ragle
Onex #89
Conventional Gear
Long Tips
Hummel 2400 w/Zenith Carb
Prince P Tip 54x50
First Flight 06/23/2020
42.8 Hrs. as of 10/30/21
WesRagle
 
Posts: 900
Joined: Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:35 pm
Location: Weatherford, Tx

PreviousNext

Return to General Discussion

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 45 guests