Update navworx adsb boxes

[Gripdana]

Thank you for that information. So it looks like if I want this to work now and after 2020. Navworks needs to upgrade the GPS hardware or prove it's capability so that the SIL code could be something compliant with the 2020 mandate. I am not opposed to sending it back to have another GPS installed. I would have purchased the more expensive model at the time had I known this was going on.

[WaiexN143NM]

Hi all,
Jonathan, thanks for the detailed good explanation. My disappointment with navworx made me walk away from this for a day, i was going to write a similiar post. Navworx is living in fantasy land. This whole fiasco could have been easily avoided. If the internal gps on a couple of models was/is within acceptable tolerance, then a request to change the sil code to the faa could have been made. The FAA folks are not going to forget any of this. Any resolution, or any new products will now be slowballed, pushed to the corner of the desk, or forgotten about. Shutting the door in the face of the inspectors twice has not earned them any respect. And the FAA is not going to give them any. Incredible. Im wondering if i have a $1300 paperweight.
WaiexN143NM
Michael
Retired FAA

[Jonathan McGee]

Hi all,
Jonathan, thanks for the detailed good explanation. My disappointment with navworx made me walk away from this for a day, i was going to write a similiar post. Navworx is living in fantasy land. This whole fiasco could have been easily avoided. If the internal gps on a couple of models was/is within acceptable tolerance, then a request to change the sil code to the faa could have been made. The FAA folks are not going to forget any of this. Any resolution, or any new products will now be slowballed, pushed to the corner of the desk, or forgotten about. Shutting the door in the face of the inspectors twice has not earned them any respect. And the FAA is not going to give them any. Incredible. Im wondering if i have a $1300 paperweight.
WaiexN143NM
Michael
Retired FAA

I tried to keep my initial post as matter-of-fact as I could. Now that it's not my initial post...

I agree that Navworx is in the wrong here. They had to address the fact that hardware they already sold was non-compliant with the mandate (i.e. the SIL) and instead of trying to work with the FAA to resolve it, they simply took the easy way out and flipped a few bits in the ADS-B packet to make the problem go away. The very bits which say "this is a high-precision, high-reliability GPS source that can be trusted for life-or-death decisions." When called on it, they doubled-down and pulled a "think of the customers!" while placing their customers directly in the line of fire.

[Edit/New Para]: Their press release is extremely telling. If they had the data they claim they do, they would have provided it to FAA before we got this far. So either the FAA rejected it (which I'm sure they would have spun in their press release) or they simply didn't provide it. The FAA inspector tried to access their facility (as he has legal authority under the TSO) on three separate prearranged times and was turned away each time. I can't fathom a situation where this makes sense and their press release doesn't even try.

This feels like Ameri-King all over again.

Because I didn't want to deal with this whole multiple unit/multiple antenna nonsense, I was planning to just stick a Garmin GTX 345 (or some variant thereof) in the aircraft. Sure it costs more, but it seems to sidestep a huge number of these problems. While I have yet to execute on the decision, it seems like the better decision every day.

[mike.smith]

Some of the latest...

https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/all ... 1202epilot

[daleandee]

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[fastj22]

Here you go ...

http://navworx.com/

Dale
N319WF

Oh what a tangled web we weave....
Sure makes you never want to go into the business of trying to be compliant with the FAA.
This does not give me a warm fuzzy feeling about the future of my SkyGuard unit.

[kmacht]

They might have saved themselves alot of headache if they didn't start manufacturing based on a phone call and didn't try to resolve things by writing an email (and waiting 5 weeks now for a response back).

Keith
#554

[intoaircooled]

sounds like someone got their undies in a bunch and now both sides are digging in and won't relent, unfortunately it's at the expense and safety of the flying public. And we wonder why GA has been on a steady slow decline.

[fastj22]

So, let me get this straight, I'm flying along in my Cirrus SR22 enjoying the situational awareness of seeing weather and traffic via TIS-B on my fancy certified Garmin G3000 and some malcontent experimental broadcasting SIL-0 enters the airspace and the FAA turns off TIS-B for everyone and my G3000 goes dark?

[kevinh]

So, let me get this straight, I'm flying along in my Cirrus SR22 enjoying the situational awareness of seeing weather and traffic via TIS-B on my fancy certified Garmin G3000 and some malcontent experimental broadcasting SIL-0 enters the airspace and the FAA turns off TIS-B for everyone and my G3000 goes dark?

update: oops - I was dumb, never mind the following... ;-)

(This is wrong) No. They just turn it off for the SIL-0 person (which is still bogus - but different).