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Camguard

PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:37 am
by GraemeSmith
Anyone running Camguard in the Valvoline VR1 20/50 oil?

As winter makes it harder to fly consistently and maintain oil films - I'd like to improve my chances while sitting. I KNOW it works well in Mineral Oil base stock in Aviation oils. But not sure if the chemistry in the Camguard will conflict with the chemistry in the Valvoline.....

Re: Camguard

PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:52 pm
by Rynoth
Interesting.. I wasn't aware of this product. I do wonder if it could possibly help with my turbo getting sticky after a few weeks on the ground.

Re: Camguard

PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:51 am
by pilotyoung
They make Camguard for auto engines and small engines. You might try the Camguard for auto engines.

Re: Camguard

PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:00 am
by GraemeSmith
Hey thanks!

Camguard Automotive wrote:CamGuard Automotive is particularly useful in older engine designs utilizing flat tappet valve trains especially when using modern, mandated lower zinc (phosphorus), oils.

Re: Camguard

PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:25 am
by AlexZ
VR1 is already high zinc
'Valvoline VR1 Racing Oil's high zinc formula provides race-level protection for high performance engines on the race track or the highway. Its exclusive chemistry is designed to reduce friction and enhance power.'

Re: Camguard

PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 12:55 pm
by Klimek
Gentlemen,
So as I now understand from reading this thread that Cam Guard is to be used in older flat lifter engines that use a lower zinc formulation. Does this prohibit its use in our AeroVee engines that are using Valvoline VR-1 high zinc oil?
I have, in the past, thought about using Cam Guard because of its high friction surface protection but now I’m rethinking it.
Am I missing anything? Is Cam Guard a high zinc additive that hangs on surfaces long after the engine is shut down?
Onex 090
N1970T

Re: Camguard

PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 7:04 am
by GraemeSmith
It's not just about the zinc.

The other principle benefit of CamGuard is helping maintain oil film over an extended period of non-use. That's what I'm really after.

Re: Camguard

PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 12:23 am
by lakespookie
I thought they updated the oil recommendations to not include the VR-1 oil and only list the brad penn

Re: Camguard

PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 6:28 am
by GraemeSmith
lakespookie wrote:I thought they updated the oil recommendations to not include the VR-1 oil and only list the brad penn

Current manual states:

Valvoline VR1 20/50 non synthetic
Brad-Penn Penn-Grade 1 Racing 20/50

for Break in and Running.

Re: Camguard

PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 10:16 am
by Rynoth
lakespookie wrote:I thought they updated the oil recommendations to not include the VR-1 oil and only list the brad penn


I believe this was only for the Aerovee Turbo.

Service Bulletin ACV-SB-091616-2A shows more options for stock Aerovee.
http://www.aeroconversions.com/support/aerovee_sb.html