Sun-n-Fun 2023

[Bryan Cotton]

Hey all,
Mid March I'm planning a trip to Tennessee to visit my parents with Adam, and take my dad for a ride. Then two weeks later repeat the trip with my youngest Matthew, and then go on to Sun-n-Fun. Anybody else going?

[Area 51%]

Yup

[pilotyoung]

I'm planning on going.

[Bryan Cotton]

Has anybody used the ADSB deviation tool to get into Sun-n-Fun before? Or does the NOTAM change the mode C veil?
https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/technol ... adsb/adapt

[GraemeSmith]

Has anybody used the ADSB deviation tool to get into Sun-n-Fun before? Or does the NOTAM change the mode C veil?
https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/technol ... adsb/adapt

A couple of thoughts....

Operating without ADSB in that part of the world might not be a great decision. You could make it "legal" but it might not be salfe.

Even if you get an exemption - in the heat of the moment ATC may not accept it:

"An ADS-B deviation authorization granted using ADAPT does not equal, nor does it guarantee, an ATC clearance into airspace where ADS-B Out equipment is required."

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Round here in New England you will get it if it is to make a trip to an Avionics shop for a repair. But it is not given as a sort of "routine" way of operating without ADSB for a non-equipped plane. Attending something like SnF would be considered "elective" and you should equip. At least around here.

[Bryan Cotton]

It seems like in prior years, they have excluded the airspace over KLAL by NOTAM. I'm hoping it's the same this year.

I agree that ADSB is great. Money and time are the only barriers. I won't have ADSB in March.

[tps8903]

I'll be there with my new Sonex. Lucky for me KLAL is 49nm from my airport and my testflight radius is 50nm. If memory serves, there is an ADSB exemption in a corridor through the KMCO airspace for Sun n Fun. However, central FL is crazy busy during normal times. It'll be tough work flying in here without ADSB.

[Bryan Cotton]

The notam published last week. It does have the ADSB exclusion. Pushes the 30 mile mode C veil over.

[Bryan Cotton]

Due to family issues no Sun-n-Fun for me.

[GraemeSmith]

From the NOTAM


REQUESTS TO DEVIATE FROM MODE C TRANSPONDER REQUIREMENT
Tampa Class B Mode C Veil Graphic
Operators of aircraft not equipped with Mode C transponders may operate within the Tampa Class B Mode
C veil to attend the Sun ’n Fun Aerospace Expo at LAL along the following ATC- designated route:
At and below 2,500 FT MSL east of Highway 39.
Remain outside of the lateral boundary of the Tampa Class B airspace. Aircraft must follow the LAL arrival
and departure procedures.
CAUTION: This notice does not constitute authorization to enter the Tampa Class B airspace.
Orlando Class B Mode C Veil Graphic
Operators of aircraft not equipped with Mode C transponders may operate within the Orlando Class B Mode
C veil to attend the Sun ’n Fun Aerospace Expo at LAL along the following ATC- designated routes:
Northwest portion of Orlando Class B: At or below 2,500 FT MSL along a route that passes over the city of
Deland, Lake Apopka, and the City of Clermont. Remain northwest of V152.
Southern portion of Orlando Class B: At or below 2,500 FT MSL south of V441 along a route over the
center of Lake Hatchineha and east of the City of Winter Haven. Remain outside of the lateral boundaries of
the Orlando Class B airspace and outside R-2901E.
CAUTION: This notice does not constitute authorization to enter the Orlando Class B airspace.