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Drilling Hinge Pins

PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2022 6:02 am
by Skippydiesel
I am sure the "brains trust" has developed a full proof technique for drilling the hinge pins used in flight control surfaces, etc

Hole needed for small cotter/split pin to secure hinge pin in its working position.

So far have broken several new HSS drill bits and hardly made a dimple in the hinge pin.

Please advise

Re: Drilling Hinge Pins

PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2022 7:49 am
by peter anson
My foolproof way was not to drill the hinge pins at all. I made a 90° bend in the end of the pin and locked it in place with a small joggled plate attached by the next rivet. It's easy to inspect and if you need to remove the pin it only needs drilling out one rivet, which I have never needed to do. If you do need to remove the pin the 90° bend part makes a nice handle.

Peter

Re: Drilling Hinge Pins

PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2022 9:29 am
by sonex1084
I hope I misunderstand your question and you are not trying to drill through the hinge pin. The hinge pin should be 1/2 inch shorter than the length of the hinge so that it is 1/4 inch short on each side of the hinge. Check the plans for the actual dimensions in case my memory is failing. But the key point is the hinge pin is shorter than the hinge. Then you just drill through the aluminum hinge round in front of the hinge pin. That prevents the pin from sliding out each end. Don't drill through the pin. I hope that makes sense.

Matt

Re: Drilling Hinge Pins

PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2022 11:20 pm
by Skippydiesel
Peter/Matt -

I need to secure the hinge pin on two modified inspection door hinges (engine cowling). Your advise, (drill the hinge not the pin) is correct for almost all application bar this one.

The pins have been "L" d at one end this can not be done on the other end, due to installation limitations - solution is to drill and cotter pin the other end OR Matts suggestion: shorten the pin and drill the hinge at both ends so as to fit two cotter pins per hinge.

The pin material is very very hard ie resistant to drilling.

Have been trying to drill with HSS bits without success - just come back from purchasing a "cobalt" drill bit - will give it a go

Re: Drilling Hinge Pins

PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 1:40 am
by sonex1566
Hi Sean,
Here's how I made my cowl doors. I wanted to hide the hinges like a kitchen cupboard or car door. I figured that people would be so impressed with my doors they'd miss the runs in the paint. This way it's simple to just 'L' the hinge pins and lock wire them in place.

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Re: Drilling Hinge Pins

PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 2:41 am
by peter anson
Yes, just lock wire the end of the pin. For the fuel door you don't even need to do that. If the pin is installed from the back, once the cowl it fitted the pin isn't going anywhere.

Peter

Re: Drilling Hinge Pins

PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:51 pm
by Skippydiesel
Nice work Sonex 1566.

Problem solved - replaced min material with aluminium welding rod - easy to drill and actually makes for a better fit than the hinge pin.

Re: Drilling Hinge Pins

PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 8:15 am
by Bryan Cotton
Why not just follow the plans? The steel rod is a little shorter than the hinge and you only drill and safety the hinge loop, not the pin.

Please don't use aluminum welding rod on any control surfaces or to hold the cowl/canopy on.

Re: Drilling Hinge Pins

PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 4:22 pm
by Skippydiesel
Bryan - As previously mentioned - this application is for a engine cowling inspection door.