Ideas for pre heating engine and oil
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:44 am
Went out to the airport couple nights ago and tried starting my 3300 Jabiru up. Recently purchased this plane and this was the coldest start for me since I bought it a few weeks ago.... Temps all day were in the upper 40's and plane was in my hangar out of the sun. Engine did not want to start... took many many attempts, cowl had to be pulled so jumper cables could be attached, etc... Finally got it to start by putting some mixed gas I had in the hangar for my ultralight, into a water bottle and dripping out about a tablespoons worth of gas onto the air filter then quickly getting in the plane and working the starter... It finally fired up after that.
Engine has the aero injector carb and there is no choke. Called Sonex and asked should I install some kind of primer or something to help cold starts and they said no. They said I just need to pre heat the engine and I won't have issues starting when its cold out.
I have power in my hangar, so thats a plus. I would like something I can just plug up and leave on all the time if possible. So if the mood strikes me to go flying at any time, the plane will be ready. But I also don't want anything that is a fire hazard or overly risky or very expensive.
I wouldn't mind using some kind of forced hot air set up once I arrive at the airport if that is reasonably effective and doesn't take more than 15-20 minutes to do the job.
I do have one of those semi-large kerosene heaters like this https://www.globalindustrial.com/p/hvac ... 0UQAvD_BwE But this thing puts out a crazy amount of heat and I am not sure how I could pipe that heat into the cowling, and if I just pointed it at the plane with the cowling on, it would still take a long long time to actually heat up the oil and make for an actual warm engine.
Also considering something like this, https://www.homedepot.com/p/Feit-Electr ... 815395-_-N Where I just install that in a fixture like this, https://www.homedepot.com/p/HDX-300-Wat ... 684496-_-N Where I clamp the fixture to something I laid on the ground under the engine cowling, and point the bulb upwards and then throw a blanket over the cowl to make the heat rise up into the engine compartment. Could even use a timer so it only runs at certain times, as I wouldn't likely go to the airport any later than sunset, or before 8 am to fly, so it could turn off from say 5 pm till 7 am every day to conserve energy...
Thoughts ideas?
I figured an electric dipstick would be a super-easy way to do it, but the reviews I read on those, they seem to be cheaply made, possible fire hazard, etc.... All the reviews on the 20-50$ ones I see on amazon are very bad.
Those stick-on pads for the oil pan, not sure if those are meant to be left on and running for hours upon hours or even days upon days... I am too far from the airport to just drive out there to plug in or unplug heaters.
Also those stick-on pad heaters, they say need to be installed on smooth metal surfaces... the oil sump on the jabiru is a roughcast aluminum surface, not sure how well those pads will stick.
Also, I see those pads vary ALOT in price depending on where you buy it from. Aircraft spruce has one for 163$ but then I see others nearly identical looking on Amazon for 30-70$... Again, I don't want a fire so I am hesitant to cheap out on this, but not sure even the expensive one from spruce isn't also a fire hazard.
Appreciate any input
Engine has the aero injector carb and there is no choke. Called Sonex and asked should I install some kind of primer or something to help cold starts and they said no. They said I just need to pre heat the engine and I won't have issues starting when its cold out.
I have power in my hangar, so thats a plus. I would like something I can just plug up and leave on all the time if possible. So if the mood strikes me to go flying at any time, the plane will be ready. But I also don't want anything that is a fire hazard or overly risky or very expensive.
I wouldn't mind using some kind of forced hot air set up once I arrive at the airport if that is reasonably effective and doesn't take more than 15-20 minutes to do the job.
I do have one of those semi-large kerosene heaters like this https://www.globalindustrial.com/p/hvac ... 0UQAvD_BwE But this thing puts out a crazy amount of heat and I am not sure how I could pipe that heat into the cowling, and if I just pointed it at the plane with the cowling on, it would still take a long long time to actually heat up the oil and make for an actual warm engine.
Also considering something like this, https://www.homedepot.com/p/Feit-Electr ... 815395-_-N Where I just install that in a fixture like this, https://www.homedepot.com/p/HDX-300-Wat ... 684496-_-N Where I clamp the fixture to something I laid on the ground under the engine cowling, and point the bulb upwards and then throw a blanket over the cowl to make the heat rise up into the engine compartment. Could even use a timer so it only runs at certain times, as I wouldn't likely go to the airport any later than sunset, or before 8 am to fly, so it could turn off from say 5 pm till 7 am every day to conserve energy...
Thoughts ideas?
I figured an electric dipstick would be a super-easy way to do it, but the reviews I read on those, they seem to be cheaply made, possible fire hazard, etc.... All the reviews on the 20-50$ ones I see on amazon are very bad.
Those stick-on pads for the oil pan, not sure if those are meant to be left on and running for hours upon hours or even days upon days... I am too far from the airport to just drive out there to plug in or unplug heaters.
Also those stick-on pad heaters, they say need to be installed on smooth metal surfaces... the oil sump on the jabiru is a roughcast aluminum surface, not sure how well those pads will stick.
Also, I see those pads vary ALOT in price depending on where you buy it from. Aircraft spruce has one for 163$ but then I see others nearly identical looking on Amazon for 30-70$... Again, I don't want a fire so I am hesitant to cheap out on this, but not sure even the expensive one from spruce isn't also a fire hazard.
Appreciate any input