entry speeds / how to do.... basic aerobatics Waiex?

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Re: entry speeds / how to do.... basic aerobatics Waiex?

Postby Area 51% » Fri Dec 15, 2023 12:15 pm

Maybe you don't have time to look, but does the oil pressure fluctuate at all when all the oil is in the back of the engine?
Do you notice any extra oil coming from the rear seal?

Looks like a lot of fun!
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Re: entry speeds / how to do.... basic aerobatics Waiex?

Postby Bryan Cotton » Fri Dec 15, 2023 12:30 pm

Area 51% wrote:Maybe you don't have time to look, but does the oil pressure fluctuate at all when all the oil is in the back of the engine?
Do you notice any extra oil coming from the rear seal?

Looks like a lot of fun!

Definitely fun. I am not very good at looking inside when I am doing aerobatics. Next time I plan to mount both cameras inside, one looking forward and one looking back. The forward looking camera will let me see the position of the controls and also give me a 3% chance of reading the oil pressure. There is also a red blinky light on the MFD that blinks if the oil pressure is too low. But it also blinks for low airspeed so I expect it to blink.

As far as noticing extra oil, that would be hard. There is oil everywhere even if we just fly straight and level.
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Re: entry speeds / how to do.... basic aerobatics Waiex?

Postby rizzz » Fri Dec 15, 2023 3:36 pm

Bryan Cotton wrote:Thanks Tnhelm, good description. Makes sense.

In the Pitts I was taught to wiggle the ailerons a little on the up line, and when they went unresponsive that was a sign the airspeed was low enough to kick over. I'm wondering if this technique would also work in the Waiex. You need that goldilocks airspeed on top - not too fast, not too slow. I probably erred on the too fast side.


https://youtu.be/MArvKledKYk?si=1iyOHdZ1947LA1FB

Hammerhead at 0:45, I don’t use the stick very much at all during this manoeuvre, just kick full rudder when the speed drops to about 40kt and maintain full throttle till the plane is pointing downward again.
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Re: entry speeds / how to do.... basic aerobatics Waiex?

Postby Bryan Cotton » Fri Dec 15, 2023 4:02 pm

Nice video Michael, and thanks for the contribution to the thread. How do you figure out when you are at 40kts?
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Re: entry speeds / how to do.... basic aerobatics Waiex?

Postby rizzz » Fri Dec 15, 2023 4:44 pm

Bryan Cotton wrote:Nice video Michael, and thanks for the contribution to the thread. How do you figure out when you are at 40kts?

I should have stated this differently, I kick full rudder when I see my airspeed indicator approach the 40kt mark. Not sure what airspeed I am actually doing at that point and whether the indicator is reliable at all during such a manoeuvre.
You can actually see my airspeed indicator and how quickly the speed drops pretty well in the video.
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Re: entry speeds / how to do.... basic aerobatics Waiex?

Postby Bryan Cotton » Fri Dec 15, 2023 4:53 pm

rizzz wrote:I should have stated this differently, I kick full rudder when I see my airspeed indicator approach the 40kt mark. Not sure what airspeed I am actually doing at that point and whether the indicator is reliable at all during such a manoeuvre.
You can actually see my airspeed indicator and how quickly the speed drops pretty well in the video.

Thanks, that answers the question. Wasn't sure if you were eyes in to see it pass through 40 or if you used other cues.
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