Stuck Hinge Pins

Use this area for aviation related general discussions, newsworthy items, and non model specific topics.

Stuck Hinge Pins

Postby kmacht » Wed Sep 25, 2013 9:03 am

I have a problem. I can't get the hing pin out of one of my flaps to remove it from the wing. The thing is stuck. I tried tapping it through both ways with another short piece of hing pin and a hammer but all that did was end up opening up one of the hinge ears and having the short piece of hinge slide out underneath. Has anyone else had similar problems? Short of drilling off the hinge and starting over are there any other good solutions out there?

Keith
#554
kmacht
 
Posts: 772
Joined: Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:30 am

Re: Stuck Hinge Pins

Postby vigilant104 » Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:49 pm

Can you push the pin far enough out to allow you to chuck it in a drill? (Then slowly spin/pull it out)
Mark Waldron
Sonex 1230 (Builder: Jay Gibbs)
Aerovee, Trigear
vigilant104
 
Posts: 265
Joined: Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:34 pm
Location: Near Dayton, OH

Re: Stuck Hinge Pins

Postby kmacht » Wed Sep 25, 2013 3:04 pm

I already did that on one wing to get the pin out but for the other wing flap it is stuck. I am considering cutting out a smaller section of hinge at one end so I can at least get a grip on it to try and pull it out.
kmacht
 
Posts: 772
Joined: Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:30 am

Re: Stuck Hinge Pins

Postby vigilant104 » Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:21 pm

kmacht wrote:I already did that on one wing to get the pin out but for the other wing flap it is stuck. I am considering cutting out a smaller section of hinge at one end so I can at least get a grip on it to try and pull it out.

That might be necessary, but I'd try a lot of other things first. Have you tried taking the weight entirely off the flap? lubrication? Also, perhaps disconnecting the flap linkage and trying to work the hinge pin out when the flap is held in other positions or while it is being wiggled up and down?
Mark Waldron
Sonex 1230 (Builder: Jay Gibbs)
Aerovee, Trigear
vigilant104
 
Posts: 265
Joined: Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:34 pm
Location: Near Dayton, OH

Re: Stuck Hinge Pins

Postby MichaelFarley56 » Wed Sep 25, 2013 9:32 pm

I agree with Mark on this one. I wouldn't cut the hinge off if at all possible, just because of the problems you'll have later trying to reinstall them.

Personally, I would take a drill but that's the same size as the pin and ream out the last hinge lug on the outboard side of the hinge. Then take an extra little piece of hinge pin and bend it into an L shape in order to push the pin out a little.

Before you start though, I'd spray a ton of LPS or silicone spray all over the hinge to help yourself out.

Good luck!

Mike
Mike Farley
Waiex #0056 - N569KM (sold)
Onex #245
MichaelFarley56
 
Posts: 1485
Joined: Thu Jun 02, 2011 11:38 pm
Location: Columbus, Ohio

Re: Stuck Hinge Pins

Postby kmacht » Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:17 am

I like the drill bit idea. I may also see if I can find one that is the same size as the hinge pin but 8" long to use as a drift to try and hit it through. I have already tried using another piece of hinge pin to tap it out with but the pin was too flexible and didn't work very well as a drift. I plan on painting in the very near future so silicon spray is a huge no-no. That stuff no matter how well you clean the metal afterwards has horrible affects on getting paint to stick.

Thanks for the advice. I'm going to give it another try tonight now that I have calmed down and no longer want to take a large hammer to the wing in fustration.

Keith
#554
kmacht
 
Posts: 772
Joined: Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:30 am

Re: Stuck Hinge Pins

Postby falvarez » Thu Sep 26, 2013 9:27 am

Here's one other thing you may want to consider. When the hinge pin got stuck in my friends flap, what we realized it that there were just a couple of areas where the alignment of the hinge was off a bit and if we pressed / flexed the flap enough in the right direction, we could eliminate enough of the binding to get the pin out. Not sure if you can identify the primary source of the binding, but if you can, this may help.
Frank Alvarez
Sonex #800, Aerovee 2.1
Scratch Building (working on Cowl)
falvarez
 
Posts: 143
Joined: Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:30 pm
Location: Middleburg, FL

Re: Stuck Hinge Pins

Postby MichaelFarley56 » Thu Sep 26, 2013 11:24 am

Hey Keith, good call on not using silicone on soon to be painted surfaces! I wonder if graphite powder is also as bad, or if it's easier to clean? I used that a lot on my cowling hinge pins and it worked well. I'm sure you did it, but when you get the pin out make sure you take the pin to a grinder or scotch brite wheel and taper the tip to a point. That will make it much easier to insert and/or remove next time.

I can't count the number of times I was so frustrated during my build I wanted to take the nearest tool and throw it as hard as I could. At that point it was time to call it quits, enjoy a nice adult cold BEvERage, and regroup. Things are always much easier afterwards.

Frank also has a great idea! I did that same thing in a few places.
Mike Farley
Waiex #0056 - N569KM (sold)
Onex #245
MichaelFarley56
 
Posts: 1485
Joined: Thu Jun 02, 2011 11:38 pm
Location: Columbus, Ohio


Return to General Discussion

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 54 guests