Cockpit Noise Level

[Murray Parr]

I don't know why anyone would fly without ANR.

I have been using ANR since my early flite training days some 20 years ago. I love them and would never go back. Even in the Cherokee I was training in, I found it much less fatiguing flying with them. My instructor thought I was nuts and advised that I wouldn't be able to hear engine pitch changes. I find it is the opposite. Very easy to hear engine and voice with ANR while it blocks out other noise. My instructor caved and now uses them.

If I could install a V8 in my Waiex, I would just for the amazing sound they make....

[Skippydiesel]

Hi Murray,

Cant quite reconcile "If I could install a V8 in my Waiex, I would just for the amazing sound they make...." with "I have been using ANR since my early flite training days some 20 years ago. I love them and would never go back. "

So you make "amazing" noise only to reduce its impact (on you) by "using ANR "

How about making less noise and having a recording of a V8 playing through your headset - better for everyone ????

[Murray Parr]

Hi Murray,

Cant quite reconcile "If I could install a V8 in my Waiex, I would just for the amazing sound they make...." with "I have been using ANR since my early flite training days some 20 years ago. I love them and would never go back. "

So you make "amazing" noise only to reduce its impact (on you) by "using ANR "

How about making less noise and having a recording of a V8 playing through your headset - better for everyone ????

Clearly you never read the whole paragraph! If you did, you would have 'reconciled' the Cherokee I was using was much clearer and easier to hear the engine with the ANR set. Engine noise is not the frequency the ANR reduces and that is on purpose.

My point being, ANR headsets make listening to the incoming voices and engine sounds much clearer, and I would never go back to using the others. Probably why I also never hear any wind noise in my aircraft like some others do.

This topic heading is "Cockpit noise level" and the discussion is about reducing it. Maybe start a new topic called "Why I hate aeroplane sounds" if you want to dump that opinion on everybody else that happens to like those sounds...

BTW my comment about installing a V8 in my Waiex was meant to be a joke so the disclaimer here is 'don't try this at home'

[Bryan Cotton]

How about making less noise and having a recording of a V8 playing through your headset - better for everyone ????

Not better for me. I want to hear a V8 Waiex.

[Skippydiesel]

Little thin-skinned Murray?

Who said anything about "...hate aeroplane sounds" ?

My comments have been about imposing unnecessary noise on the general population.

It's all well & good for pilots, to "love" the sound of unmuffled engines but what of the majority who don't fly?? Many find the sound of overflying aircraft to be annoying - its called being considerate/Fly Neighbourly.

Many airfields/ports have noise abatement procedures, for arriving/departing aircraft (including my little home paddock). If the noise of overflying aircraft was as attractive to the general poulation, as it is to you and I, this would not be necessary.

My comments have come from the apparent willingness (even eagerness) of some pilots, to increase the EXTERNAL noise, emanating from their aircraft, without comment/concerne of its effect on non aviators in the surrounding community.

I'm gobsmacked that this is even a contested topic.

"Engine noise is not the frequency the ANR reduces and that is on purpose."

There is no one engine noise frequency or band - Yes you may hear certain engine noises more clearly, with a ANR headset but others will be muffled even absent.

[DCASonex]

Get a glider.

David A.

[Kai]

Get a glider.

David A.

David,

I´m affraid for some people even that won´t help.

The glider aerotow operation my club is running during weekends seem to irritate some of the airstrip neighbours no end. They object to the (granted considerable) noise from the towplane (repeatedly) flying over their heads- first from a Pawnee, which was replaced with a LSA with a R912- and finally the angry wasp buzzing from a retractable two stroke in the back of a self launch sailplane.

Come the latest developments in that field with the two stroke being replaced with a soundless electrical motor- but even this did not seem to alleviate the situation: they objected to even the sight of the glider soaring soundlessly overhead!

Some people are just difficuilt to please- sigh!

[Skippydiesel]

Hi Kai,

"Some people are just difficuilt to please- sigh!"

Yes! and I wonder why they moved to live close to an airfield.
Ultimately there will always be those who continue to complain, despite the airfield/pilots best efforts. This should not be an excuses for pilots to not take external noise into consideration, when deciding on an exhaust system.

[DCASonex]

Perhaps an electric powered Zenos such as Paul Dye featured recently in Kit Planes magazine.

I fortunately am based at a rural airport where one of the staff said that the only comment they received from a neighbor was that my Sonex with its straight pipe CAMit 3300 was their favorite to observe taking off.

David A.

[Kai]

I fortunately am based at a rural airport where one of the staff said that the only comment they received from a neighbor was that my Sonex with its straight pipe CAMit 3300 was their favorite to observe taking off.

David- what a coincidence: so do I!

However, I have a nasty suspicion this is not because of my silenced Edge- have you ever seen the movie Ámerican Made`? And the hero´s hairy takeoff? There are strong rumours that the neighbours have set up a betting group: is he flying today? Will he get it off the ground??