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Waiex B down

Postby Sonex1517 » Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:37 pm

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Re: Waiex B down

Postby GraemeSmith » Wed Aug 10, 2022 7:41 am

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Re: Waiex B down

Postby GraemeSmith » Wed Aug 10, 2022 8:17 am

FAA Accident and Incident Notification(s): Notice(s) Created 10-AUG-22
IDENTIFICATION
Date: 09-AUG-22
Time: 18:06:00Z
Regis#: N51YX
Aircraft Make: SONEX
Aircraft Model: WAIEX
Event Type: ACCIDENT
Highest Injury: FATAL
Aircraft Missing: No
Damage: DESTROYED
LOCATION
City: MAXWELL
State: CALIFORNIA
Country: UNITED STATES
DESCRIPTION
Description: AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES AND POST CRASH FIRE, MAXWELL, CA.
INJURY DATA
Total Fatal: 1
Fatal Serious Minor None Unknown
Flight Crew 1 0 0 0 0
Cabin Crew 0 0 0 0 0
Passenger 0 0 0 0 0
Ground 0 0 0 0 0
OTHER
Activity: PERSONAL
Flight Phase: UNKNOWN (UNK)
Operation: 91
Aircraft Operator:
Flight Number:
FAA FSDO: SACRAMENTO FSDO
Entry Date: 10-AUG-22
Updated since entry: No


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Serial Number W0051 Status Valid
Manufacturer Name KRAUSE RAYMOND A Certificate Issue Date 06/04/2022
Model WAIEX Expiration Date 06/30/2025
Type Aircraft Fixed Wing Single-Engine Type Engine 4 Cycle
Pending Number Change None Dealer No
Date Change Authorized None Mode S Code (base 8 / Oct) 51460522
MFR Year 2007 Mode S Code (Base 16 / Hex) A66152
Type Registration Co-Owned Fractional Owner NO
REGISTERED OWNER
Name JACK R DAVIS
Street 4406 DON RIVER LN
City SACRAMENTO State CALIFORNIA
County SACRAMENTO Zip Code 95834-7515
Country UNITED STATES
AIRWORTHINESS
Type Certificate Data Sheet None Type Certificate Holder None
Engine Manufacturer JABIRU Classification Experimental
Engine Model 3300 Category None, Reg. Prior to 01/31/08
A/W Date 10/18/2007 Exception Code No
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Re: Waiex B down

Postby WaiexN143NM » Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:14 am

Hi all,
I know this plane , a legacy waiex, unless ray karuse converted it to a B before selling it.
i saw this plane many times at the rio linda ca (sacramento) annual fly in days.
nicely built, jab 3300. very sorry to hear of this. lots of flat farm fields in that area.
jack davis new owner. RIP.


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Re: Waiex B down

Postby Scott Todd » Wed Aug 10, 2022 11:19 am

He couldn't have been that new of an owner. The FAA is at least 8 months behind on transferring registrations right now. Unless he had some pull somewhere...
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Re: Waiex B down

Postby Bryan Cotton » Wed Aug 10, 2022 11:31 am

Well, that's bad news.
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Re: Waiex B down

Postby LarryEWaiex121 » Wed Aug 10, 2022 3:17 pm

First off the plane was indeed a legacy A model and not a B.
The plane probably had about 700 hrs on it and it had been converted from a Jabiru to Camit 3300 shortly after my Camit install in 2016, spring.
Ray spoke well of his Camit and I have no knowledge of any difficulties experienced with it since its install.
The plane was well sorted and flew correctly with no issues.
When I was approaching the finish of my Waiex, that is when I first met Ray online and he generously offered me right seat time to comply with initial insurance requirements. We flew at full gross weight and I was very impressed with the performance.
After almost a 1,000 hrs now in my own Waiex I can tell you that Ray was very proud of the building effort he put forth and is extremely saddened by the loss of his friend that purchased the plane a year or so ago. No one expects this outcome on a very well executed aircraft.
I have no further information on this matter and will respectfully wait for news. Speculation is worthless and not helpful. The matter will get sorted.
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Re: Waiex B down

Postby builderflyer » Wed Aug 10, 2022 3:57 pm

I'm particularly sad to read of this accident as I also know the builder, Ray, as well as his beautiful example of a Waiex. This Waiex was one of the few, maybe the only one, to be licensed as an experimental LSA during a short window of opportunity to do so several years ago. After Ray could no longer fly his Waiex because of eyesight problems, he generously asked me if I'd be interested in having it. My only obligation would have been to fly and maintain it and to make it available to his grandson if he should someday wish to have it for his own. When I hesitated at the idea, Ray said he found two other pilots who would be interested in taking over his Waiex. Ray asked if I would check out one of the pilot's in my Sonex but that, too, never happened. Ray must be absolutely devastated to hear of this terrible accident.

May the pilot rest in peace,

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Re: Waiex B down

Postby WaiexN143NM » Wed Aug 10, 2022 8:41 pm

hi all,
accident now listed on kathryns report. thanks larry and art for the updates.
was always good to see ray and his waiex at the rio linda fly ins.
sad to see this. waiting for the report on who was flying.


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Re: Waiex B down

Postby fastj22 » Thu Aug 11, 2022 12:32 pm

Its a situation exactly like this that keeps me from selling my Waiex. I would be devastated if a second owner died in my creation. I'm sure it wasn't the build with such a high time airframe.

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