Correct valve retainer for 3-groove valve keepers

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Correct valve retainer for 3-groove valve keepers

Postby Ethanm » Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:26 pm

Hello!

Due to low compression in my rear 2 cylinders I replaced all 4 exhaust valves and had the valve seats cut at a local machine shop. I took out the 4 old single groove exhaust valves and replaced them with the 3-groove exhaust valves currently available on the sonex webstore. Realizing I'd need new 3-groove valve keepers, I picked up a set from a VW shop (separate from the machine shop). Since the outer diameter of the 3-groove valve keepers are slightly smaller than the old 1-groove valve keepers, they fit further down in the valve retainer (see photos). As a result the spring would be less compressed.

I was hoping someone could point me in the right direction on if I need new valve retainers, keepers, or both, and where I could find them online.

Thanks for the help :)

Left is new 3 groove valve, right is old 1 groove valve

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Re: Correct valve retainer for 3-groove valve keepers

Postby Bryan Cotton » Tue Oct 24, 2023 12:11 am

I've not faced this issue before, but I suspect you will need valve retainers to match your keepers.

I suspect Randy will be along shortly to tell us the real story.
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Re: Correct valve retainer for 3-groove valve keepers

Postby Weatherpilot » Tue Oct 24, 2023 5:58 am

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Re: Correct valve retainer for 3-groove valve keepers

Postby Area 51% » Tue Oct 24, 2023 10:06 am

There is indeed a difference.
CB Performance carries both types of retainers as well as the locks. .
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Re: Correct valve retainer for 3-groove valve keepers

Postby Bryan Cotton » Tue Oct 24, 2023 10:15 am

Area 51% wrote:There is indeed a difference.
CB Performance carries both types of retainers as well as the locks. .

Thanks Randy. I note that CB performance has a page dedicated to single groove, and another dedicated to 3 groove. Each page has its own valve retainers. So that could be your answer Ethan.
https://www.cbperformance.com/Valve-Tra ... s-s/61.htm
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Re: Correct valve retainer for 3-groove valve keepers

Postby Ethanm » Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:57 pm

Thank you all! Problem solved :)
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