Waiex 191 Aerovee

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Waiex 191 Aerovee

Postby Bryan Cotton » Sat Aug 02, 2014 11:24 am

I have ordered my aerovee!
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Waiex 191 N191YX
Taildragger, Aerovee, acro ailerons
dual sticks with sport trainer controls
Prebuilt spars and machined angle kit
Year 2 flying and approaching 200 hours December 23
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Re: Waiex 191 Aerovee

Postby ScottM-Sonex1629 » Sat Aug 02, 2014 12:01 pm

Turbo?

That's a good idea to beat the price increase. Did you go with the pre-assembled crank shaft?
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Re: Waiex 191 Aerovee

Postby Bryan Cotton » Sat Aug 02, 2014 12:11 pm

Scott,
I did not go turbo for 3 reasons, listed here in order of priority:
1) I want my kids to learn to fly with minimum power
2) Budget
3) Maturity of the design

If the turbo works out well for folks, I may upgrade after I fly for 5 or so years. I think it is cool. I did spring for the hub installation.
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Poplar Grove, IL C77
Waiex 191 N191YX
Taildragger, Aerovee, acro ailerons
dual sticks with sport trainer controls
Prebuilt spars and machined angle kit
Year 2 flying and approaching 200 hours December 23
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Waiex 191 Aerovee

Postby Sonex1517 » Sat Aug 02, 2014 1:19 pm

Bryan

We will keep you posted as to the Turbo experience....

Glad you got the engine ordered!


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Re: Waiex 191 Aerovee

Postby Bryan Cotton » Sat Aug 02, 2014 3:19 pm

Robbie,
So you are going to be a turbonaut too? Cool! I guess I'll have to brag about my low fuel burn!
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Poplar Grove, IL C77
Waiex 191 N191YX
Taildragger, Aerovee, acro ailerons
dual sticks with sport trainer controls
Prebuilt spars and machined angle kit
Year 2 flying and approaching 200 hours December 23
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Waiex 191 Aerovee

Postby Sonex1517 » Sat Aug 02, 2014 4:42 pm

Yes Bryan, I figured since I was not done with the AeroVee build, it was time to do it. I would rather do it now and not have to re-do my 40 hour test period, in addition to the time and effort involved to retrofit the turbo later.

I did not want to be first, but it appears I am close to the front of the line....

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Re: Waiex 191 Aerovee

Postby ScottM-Sonex1629 » Sat Aug 02, 2014 6:13 pm

Robbie,

I'm right there with you on the decision. I'm 90% sure about doing the Turbo. My engine is like yours, pretty much built, but not yet hung on the airframe. I did not order exhaust or a prop yet, knowing this turbo announcement was coming, but also wanting to get the spring special when it was offered.

I'm still about 9 months plus away from flying (if my pace keeps up). I have all winter to make my final decision and get the funds together for the turbo upgrade.

Bryan - can't go wrong with waiting either. It's just more expensive to upgrade later...which is why Robbie did it and I probably will too...
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Waiex 191 Aerovee

Postby Sonex1517 » Sat Aug 02, 2014 6:39 pm

Yep Scott. I have to hope I can exchange the exhaust and will posting a classified ad to sell my Sensenich prop soon. Bryan, if you do not have one and are looking for a good deal on a prop for your AeroVee....

After the craziness from Oshkosh settles down I plan to ask the factory what all. I can swap. I am just working on the rocket assemblies now and already know I will not be using the oil pump I currently have.

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Re: Waiex 191 Aerovee

Postby Bryan Cotton » Sun Aug 03, 2014 10:15 am

Why is it more expensive to upgrade later? I am guessing this is due to buying two props and two exhaust systems.

By the time I upgrade, if I do, I will have two pilots to fly off the extra hours.
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Poplar Grove, IL C77
Waiex 191 N191YX
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Year 2 flying and approaching 200 hours December 23
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Postby Sonex1517 » Sun Aug 03, 2014 11:14 am

My opinion here, but you hit the main issues squarely -

Replacing the prop and exhaust are the main expense. I am hoping to swap my exhaust as I have not mounted it or used it yet.

There is also the need to stop flying and remove the engine to mount the turbo and exhaust. (I am assuming this would require removing the engine)

To me it makes sense to do it now while I am still building and have not made my first flight. Your mileage (and opinion) may vary.


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