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Re: On a quest for the elusive "Dry AeroVee"

PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2022 12:43 pm
by Bryan Cotton
Just flew for an hour. Much less oil on the belly. Seems like it is not coming out the breather but all the other various leaks. I noticed some oil on the bottom hinge line. I tried to check the oil level when I got back, but when the oil is clean and hot it is very difficult to see the level. I think it runs down the dipstick.

Re: On a quest for the elusive "Dry AeroVee"

PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2022 10:50 pm
by Bryan Cotton
I'm declaring the air-oil separator I installed a bust. The prop seal was leaking oil. Much more resistance to blow through the separator and plumbing as compared to a hose. I went to the stock Aerovee setup and will try tomorrow.

Re: On a quest for the elusive "Dry AeroVee"

PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2022 10:11 am
by Bryan Cotton
Well, the stock setup was a bust. Flew for an hour this morning and oil all over the belly. Previously I had fabricated and riveted a baffle onto the breather cover, and that has been removed.

Regarding the can, I think David A. had it figured out:
DCASonex wrote:Far more important, the bronze filter looks like it will effectively become a cork when covered with a small bit of oil.


I am going to rework the can and remove that filter. Then I'll do the breathalyzer test on it to verify that it isn't a big restriction.

Edit: Here is a picture of the nifty baffle I made. It made essentially no difference.
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Re: On a quest for the elusive "Dry AeroVee"

PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 2:22 pm
by Bryan Cotton
Try 2. First I filled a 1/2" 6061-T6 tube with sand, annealed it, and bent it thusly:
annealed bent tube.jpg


I bored out the hole to 1/2". It was pretty close to that. The tube goes below the disc and puts some swirl on the air-oil mixture.
inlet swirl tube.jpg


The scrubbers are right out of the Tony Bingelis playbook.
chore boy packing.jpg


I had enough time to complete this and get the cowl off. Next chance I get I'll install it and fly it.

And another note - when I blow through the inlet there is pretty much no resistance. At least right now. We will see what happens in use once oil gets involved.

I weighed this with my mounting hardware attached. It was about 1.125 lbs.

Re: On a quest for the elusive "Dry AeroVee"

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2022 2:27 pm
by Bryan Cotton
0.9 today including a run up to Vne. There was a little oil on the belly and some evidence of oil coming out the hinge line. The prop shaft felt dry-ish when I put my hand in there and visibly the oil level looks about the same. Seems hopeful.

Re: On a quest for the elusive "Dry AeroVee"

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2022 4:35 pm
by Murray Parr
Bryan,

how many hours are on the engine? I wonder if the rings haven't seated yet and perhaps you are getting too much blow by. A leak down test might provide you with some useful information.

Re: On a quest for the elusive "Dry AeroVee"

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2022 5:17 pm
by Bryan Cotton
I've got 15 or 16 hours so far. I've not been having temperature issues and per the manual I've not been babying the engine at all.

Re: On a quest for the elusive "Dry AeroVee"

PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 2:13 pm
by Bryan Cotton
I haven't found it yet.
oil filter leak aftermath.jpg


The filter seal pushed out on startup.
failed tough guard filter.jpg


I took the filter apart and it looked ok. Not sure what happened here.

Technically the Aerovee stayed dry but the airplane and ramp did not.

Re: On a quest for the elusive "Dry AeroVee"

PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:55 pm
by karmarepair
My guess is cold oil and/or a stuck relief piston spiked the start up oil pressure. Think about the Gene Berg full flow cover with a built in relief valve if your plumbing will allow it.

Re: On a quest for the elusive "Dry AeroVee"

PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 12:19 am
by gammaxy
Oh man, what a mess. I've read about this happening several times on this forum and probably the yahoo groups before. Hopefully after your example people will either stop doing it or find a better way. Maybe someone with hundreds of hours of reliability that's different from this historically and predictably bad method will share their installation.