Bending 1/4 in aluminum stock?

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Bending 1/4 in aluminum stock?

Postby sjakulski » Sun Aug 22, 2021 6:06 pm

I am working on page WXB-F23 (Waiex tail parts). It has several calls for bending 1/4 in thick parts 5 degrees. Now, we are supposed to be able to build without any special equipment… What have others done to make the bends of such thick parts? Danke Steve J
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Re: Bending 1/4 in aluminum stock?

Postby Bryan Cotton » Sun Aug 22, 2021 6:27 pm

I used an arbor press
Bryan Cotton wrote:Here we go again- the big bend.
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I am not going to do this tonight. Too tired.



Hopefully the Photobucket image still sort of works. Else there is an earlier version in the first couple pages of my thread.

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Re: Bending 1/4 in aluminum stock?

Postby pfhoeycfi » Sun Aug 22, 2021 6:33 pm

Harbor Frieght has a cheap press that I used to make
those small bends in thicker material.
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Re: Bending 1/4 in aluminum stock?

Postby Rynoth » Sun Aug 22, 2021 9:54 pm

sjakulski wrote:I am working on page WXB-F23 (Waiex tail parts). It has several calls for bending 1/4 in thick parts 5 degrees. Now, we are supposed to be able to build without any special equipment… What have others done to make the bends of such thick parts? Danke Steve J


Steve,

You will need more tools than Sonex mentions in their marketing material to build the kit. As a reference: https://www.sonexaircraft.com/required-tools/

In my experience, more tools are required than this. But the additional tools that I decided I needed are neither expensive nor hard to find.

Bending the "hockey sticks" was a profound moment for me in my Waiex A kit. It was the first time I had ever bent metal using a press, was at the very beginning of my build (as it seems for you), and was before I ever drove a single rivet.

You will need a press to bend the material. An arbor press or a hydraulic press will work.

I'll link my blog post with my first press bend here:

http://www.rynoth.com/wordpress/waiex/2 ... pennage-1/
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Re: Bending 1/4 in aluminum stock?

Postby Zack » Mon Aug 23, 2021 3:01 pm

I also did these at the beginning of the build. I thought I was close, but years later when I went to mount them they were way off. I ended up buying another tail kit since I didn't want to disassemble everything to get to the spars. Building them again was much quicker. I ended up finding a shop locally with press that could bend the spars and they fit perfectly (but I had to trim the skins a bunch). Not every place will have a nearby shop to do this.
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Re: Bending 1/4 in aluminum stock?

Postby taildragger » Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:52 am

I am a hammer mechanic. Would it be too crude to use a hammer, vice and iPhone if jigged correctly? The hammer (with a wood protector) would "persuade" the metal into the correct angle. An iPhone can measure angles with .1 degree resolution.
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Re: Bending 1/4 in aluminum stock?

Postby GraemeSmith » Fri Sep 24, 2021 7:02 am

taildragger wrote:I am a hammer mechanic. Would it be too crude to use a hammer, vice and iPhone if jigged correctly? The hammer (with a wood protector) would "persuade" the metal into the correct angle. An iPhone can measure angles with .1 degree resolution.

Visions of putting the iPhone between the workpiece and the hammer and pounding it into oblivion raced before my eyes - then I read the rest of your post! :-)
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Re: Bending 1/4 in aluminum stock?

Postby Bryan Cotton » Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:23 am

taildragger wrote:I am a hammer mechanic. Would it be too crude to use a hammer, vice and iPhone if jigged correctly? The hammer (with a wood protector) would "persuade" the metal into the correct angle. An iPhone can measure angles with .1 degree resolution.

Yes, too crude. Works fine for bending utility trailer parts. As you persuade the metal to bend with the hammer you are really not controlling where the bend takes place.

This thought process for building an airplane is rather scary to me.
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Re: Bending 1/4 in aluminum stock?

Postby XenosN42 » Sat Sep 25, 2021 9:11 am

sjakulski wrote:I am working on page WXB-F23 (Waiex tail parts). It has several calls for bending 1/4 in thick parts 5 degrees. Now, we are supposed to be able to build without any special equipment… What have others done to make the bends of such thick parts? Danke Steve J


The Sonex Builders & Pilots Foundation has links to many great videos showing build techniques. One shows how to bend aluminum. https://sonexfoundation.com/safety-%26-education All the videos are short and should be worth your time. Enjoy.
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Re: Bending 1/4 in aluminum stock?

Postby Zack » Wed Sep 29, 2021 10:34 am

I've used the vise and hammer method many times in my build. You need custom smooth vise jaws with an appropriate radius. You can use a block between the part and the hammer to get a uniform application of force and break the bend on the vise jaws. However, these spars are not suited to this method. They are too thick to get the precision you need. Later when you bolt them to the fuselage you cannot use the bolts to take up any gap, they need to be perfect. I had to replace my spars because of this and ended up building another tail kit because of the work required to open up the stabilators, remove the original spars, match drill them and install new ones was so great.
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