Cotton Waiex 191 - N191YX

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Re: Cotton Waiex 191 - N191YX

Postby Bryan Cotton » Tue Sep 02, 2014 11:27 pm

So here is my technique for drilling the critical 1/4" tail hold down holes. First I took out the rivets at the front corners of the shear panel (by the green arrows).
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Then I clecoed down my tail mount angle, put a scrap piece of angle behind, and clamped them together:
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Brought the two angles over to the vise and transferred the holes using my 3/16" HF transfer punch:
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I shot those 6 holes on the drill press, clecoed the angles back together, and clecoed them down using the two holes that want to become 1/4" tail hold downs. I then transferred the holes from the spots where I removed the rivets. That scrap angle now becomes a tool to hold the lower tail mount angle:
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Here are all the clecoes in:
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Now I bring up the hole in the block and angle to the next size. In this case I am going from #40 to #30:
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The block and angle now act as a 1" thick guide block to drill the longeron, shear panel, and the angle underneath.
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It's almost too easy. For all these holes I have been averaging one hour per hole to final size. Much better than rebuilding the tail. Almost forgot to mention, I used some aluminum pops to rivet the shear panel to the angle underneath temporarily. The angle is clecoed to the verticals underneath. I will take the angle out to deburr then it goes back in for keeps.
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Re: Cotton Waiex 191 - N191YX

Postby ScottM-Sonex1629 » Wed Sep 03, 2014 6:10 am

Looking great Bryan. I must say that tail assembly is much more complicated on the Waiex then the Sonex.
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Re: Cotton Waiex 191 - N191YX

Postby Bryan Cotton » Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:12 pm

This weekend I got very little done. Cleaning and organizing of the hangar, fixing a couple cabinets and home, and I made these two angle clips:
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I looked for these clips for a long time before I realized I had to make them.
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Re: Cotton Waiex 191 - N191YX

Postby Rynoth » Wed Sep 10, 2014 1:06 pm

FYI on those clips.. you will probably need to radius one of the edges a lot more than what the plans show... the plans seem to assume that the inner radius of all the angles is 1/8", but on all the angle that has flanges larger than 1", the inside corner radius is more like 3/16". You'll see what I mean when it's time to locate those clips and they won't quite sit flush on the inside of another angle.

There are several other instances where this happens in the fwd fuselage, anytime one part nests in the inside angle of another part.
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Re: Cotton Waiex 191 - N191YX

Postby Bryan Cotton » Wed Sep 10, 2014 1:44 pm

Thanks. Glad I skipped setting up the router and just laid to it with the angle sander instead.
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Re: Cotton Waiex 191 - N191YX

Postby DCASonex » Thu Sep 11, 2014 8:30 am

Rynoth wrote:FYI on those clips.. you will probably need to radius one of the edges a lot more than what the plans show... the plans seem to assume that the inner radius of all the angles is 1/8", but on all the angle that has flanges larger than 1", the inside corner radius is more like 3/16". You'll see what I mean when it's time to locate those clips and they won't quite sit flush on the inside of another angle.

There are several other instances where this happens in the fwd fuselage, anytime one part nests in the inside angle of another part.


I think you will find that on all Sonex / Waiex parts, that they were drawn when the inside radius of standard extruded angles was smaller than today, and more material must be removed from parts that nest in them than shown.

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Re: Cotton Waiex 191 - N191YX

Postby Bryan Cotton » Thu Sep 11, 2014 10:31 am

David,
My observation has been that the 1" angles have the small radius, and the wider angles have the larger radius. I remade my lower tail mount angle from some leftover 1/8" thick 1.5" wide stock that I bought for my hummelbird in the 1990's. Those angles, as well as the larger angles in the Waiex kit seem to have a 1/16"-ish radius.
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Re: Cotton Waiex 191 - N191YX

Postby Bryan Cotton » Fri Sep 12, 2014 8:50 pm

Here is my technique for getting the hole for the flap pivot blocks centered and perpendicular to the bolt holes.

First I put a piece of white masking tape over the inside face of the block. With a couple of long 3/16" bolts sticking through I draw parallel lines on the outside of the bolts:
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Then I use another ruler to make lines a fixed distance from each bolt. These lines give me a good way to find the center. It is easier to measure to a line than a hole.
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Finally I transfer that midpoint measurement up to the edge and draw a line across where I need to holesaw.
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You can see I use 4 bolts to make the holes level with the plane of the vise. Long 3/16" rods would be better.
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Re: Cotton Waiex 191 - N191YX

Postby Bryan Cotton » Sun Sep 14, 2014 5:25 pm

Here is how I tweak a holesaw size down a little bit:
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I am going for that nice fit for the flap drive blocks.
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Re: Cotton Waiex 191 - N191YX

Postby Bryan Cotton » Sun Sep 14, 2014 11:27 pm

Here I am working on the striker plates. I rounded off the edges with a 1/8"R router bit first.
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I drilled a bunch of holes. Then I chocked up a little high speed dremel cutting tool in the drill press, turned the speed up to 3100 RPM, set up a fence, and connected the dots. Didn't get a picture. Finished it with a file. Here they are clecoed on.
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I am getting close to forward fuselage assembly.
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Waiex 191 N191YX
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