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Wing root fairings

PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 5:13 am
by Skippydiesel
Simple question; - Why don't Sonex aircraft have wing root fairings?

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Would correctly designed wing root fairings, make any positive difference to handling/performance (speed)?

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An invitation, to anyone who has made & installed their own wing root fairings, to post photos and comment on changes to their aircrafts handling/performance

Re: Wing root fairings

PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 8:10 am
by GraemeSmith
I think Mike Smith is the person for this. He did some experimenting with fairings

Re: Wing root fairings

PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:30 am
by DCASonex
I used the rubber seals from a Zenith CH650 the kit for which I gave up on and sold when the folding (in-flight) wing problem became apparent. Have seen similar in Aircraft Spruce catalog. 10+ years no problems.

David A.

Re: Wing root fairings

PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:18 am
by T41pilot
Rubber channel from Vans Aircraft. Took some effort to install but looks good and works well.

Re: Wing root fairings

PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 11:30 am
by Area 51%
Are we talking root fairings....or seals here?

Re: Wing root fairings

PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 3:01 pm
by Bryan Cotton
Area 51% wrote:Are we talking root fairings....or seals here?

I was assuming fairings, which is why I didn't link in my electrical tape experience (70 hours and counting) here.

Re: Wing root fairings

PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 6:06 pm
by Skippydiesel
In this context;

Fairings - aerodynamic (some say aesthetic) devises intended to to improve air flow (streamlining) so enhancing aircraft efficiency (speed & sometimes handing).

Seals- material/devise used to prevent the ingress of air/water/dust/bugs/noise and give a finished look to the abutment/intersection of two surfaces.

My Sonex wings already have "rubber" seals between wing root and fuselage.

My interest is the aerodynamic efficiency of the standard Sonex wing to fuselage "treatment" and can it be improved by adding wing root fairings.

Re: Wing root fairings

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 12:12 pm
by karmarepair
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3641&start=10&hilit=Tuft+testing

Visually, the flow is better, but it's not clear there are quantifiable benefits.

Re: Wing root fairings

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 1:35 pm
by Bryan Cotton
I have two observations:
1) It's not broken
2) Weight is the enemy

I am a big fan of Kent Paser's book "Speed with Economy." But for my 672 lb 80 HP Waiex, observation #2 holds me in check unless something is broken.

Re: Wing root fairings

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:19 pm
by Skippydiesel
Bryan Cotton wrote:I have two observations:
1) It's not broken
2) Weight is the enemy

I am a big fan of Kent Paser's book "Speed with Economy." But for my 672 lb 80 HP Waiex, observation #2 holds me in check unless something is broken.


Agreed Bryan! however my overriding interest is fuel econamy/range. Any modification that enhances my Sonex's range, is worth exploring.

Unlike the USA, Australia has vast distances between many of its airfields and not all will have fuel of any kind (particularly ULP) so range becomes a serious consideration, if the pilot wants to "tour" (I do).

I already have additional wing tanks (with a weight penalty) and if not carrying a passenger, two 20L/fuel bladders that can be carried on the right seat (fuel not transferable in flight).

My guess is, if wing root fairings added 5 knots, for a given engine/fuel flow setting, it would be worth doing.