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Great YouTube video on Loss of Control

Postby Sonex1517 » Sat Sep 21, 2019 9:21 am

FlightChops and Dan Gryder produced a fantastic video we all should watch. It demonstrates some of the key concepts in loss of control accidents.

Take 25 minutes and watch this. It may save your life.

https://youtu.be/m_tKShlf_gU
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Re: Great YouTube video on Loss of Control

Postby WesRagle » Sat Sep 21, 2019 2:49 pm

HI Robbie,

That was interesting. Lots of insightful stuff. I have always been *told* what speed to fly the pattern by someone I trusted and never really tried to apply any science or logic to it. Now I at least have a touchstone I can check the number against. Sure makes you think. I wonder, in general, how close minimum maneuvering speed is to best glide for small GA aircraft?

Anyway, good stuff.

Thanks,

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Re: Great YouTube video on Loss of Control

Postby Sonex1517 » Sat Sep 21, 2019 10:18 pm

I’ve got an LRI (Lift Reserve Indicator) fairly well calibrated. I calculated my minimum somewhere around 56 mph. That’s right where my LRI is mid range yellow, so it makes sense.

I’m interested to go play around up high at slow speeds with a safety pilot along for added weight and get more experience at that airspeed. I don’t spend much time that slow.

Anyone else tried this?
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Re: Great YouTube video on Loss of Control

Postby WaiexN143NM » Sun Sep 22, 2019 1:41 am

hi robbie,
Thanks for posting this video. good to watch, pwr failure, immediately get the nose down!
practice! maintain airspeed. weve had alot of stall/spin in the sonex community.
dan ive met at oskosh. he usually flies in in his dc-3. he is the guy who posted a couple yrs ago about the oshkosh arrival procedures and stall spins base to final. i reposted here just before osh 2019.
a good aviator and teacher for all of us.

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Re: Great YouTube video on Loss of Control

Postby Scott Todd » Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:34 pm

I have been teaching stall recovery without power for years. But few instructors do. Old school was to add power as you lower the nose to level. Not good enough!

He does a good job of instilling to push as soon as it hiccups. It has to be instinct. I make all my students do it just like he teaches in the video. Go practice!

If you really want to be a better pilot, go take a few glider lessons. I can't believe how many pilots I have flown with that don't. The pilot of the Gimli Glider and Sully were both glider pilots. Saved hundreds of lives...
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Re: Great YouTube video on Loss of Control

Postby Bryan Cotton » Sun Sep 22, 2019 1:24 pm

Scott Todd wrote:If you really want to be a better pilot, go take a few glider lessons. I can't believe how many pilots I have flown with that don't. The pilot of the Gimli Glider and Sully were both glider pilots. Saved hundreds of lives...

Amen! Or better yet take it up as a hobby.
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Re: Great YouTube video on Loss of Control

Postby sonex892. » Sun Sep 22, 2019 7:36 pm

Interesting video. My initial flight training was in winch launch gliders. When the cable broke, which was quite often. We were made to go full forward stick. We got so light in the seat, dirt from the floor would hit the canopy.

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Re: Great YouTube video on Loss of Control

Postby peter anson » Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:22 am

Good video. The only time I have done power failure on take-off drills was fairly early in my flight training. I remember that I was almost shocked at how hard I had to push the stick forward to maintain speed. I felt like I had the nose pointed straight at the ground to prevent a stall. I climb out pretty fast in the Sonex and while it's slippery, it doesn't have much momentum so probably pulls up pretty quickly with the nose high. Might try out a few of those maneuvers with a bit of altitude first.

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Re: Great YouTube video on Loss of Control

Postby sonex1566 » Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:55 am

That video was pretty intense and I was just sitting at the dining room table watching it. I also hadn't put too much thought into why we fly a particular speed in the circuit. He's a good teacher, I would definitely need some cake and coffee after a lesson like that.
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