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Flyboys Tailwheel

Postby racaldwell » Tue Feb 22, 2022 10:29 am

If you bought the Flyboys Sonex specific tailwheel and your plane has a Y tail, then you have an issue.

I questioned them about why the pivot angle is forward instead of aft. Seems I am the 1st person that brought that to their attention. They said it was designed for a Onex and the regular tail Sonex has a steeper angle tailwheel spring. The angle is aft with that spring.

My ground handling is not the best in my Xenos. Brakes and tailwheel leave a lot to be desired. Now I know why. I am in the works of getting some parts from Flyboys and I'll weld them at the 10 deg aft angle that it needs.

I am also in the process of throwing away the Aeroconversion hydraulic brakes and buying Okeefe hydraulic brakes.

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Re: Flyboys Tailwheel

Postby BRS » Tue Feb 22, 2022 12:43 pm

Rick,

In your picture the tail wheel is ahead of your main gear wheel. I'm trying to imagine what the rest looks like ;-)

For wheels/brakes you might consider Matco. I like them very much on my Sonex-A.
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Flyboys Tailwheel

Postby Carlos Trigo » Tue Feb 22, 2022 3:21 pm

racaldwell wrote:If you bought the Flyboys Sonex specific tailwheel and your plane has a Y tail, then you have an issue.

I questioned them about why the pivot angle is forward instead of aft. Seems I am the 1st person that brought that to their attention. They said it was designed for a Onex and the regular tail Sonex has a steeper angle tailwheel spring. The angle is aft with that spring.

My ground handling is not the best in my Xenos. Brakes and tailwheel leave a lot to be desired. Now I know why. I am in the works of getting some parts from Flyboys and I'll weld them at the 10 deg aft angle that it needs.

I am also in the process of throwing away the Aeroconversion hydraulic brakes and buying Okeefe hydraulic brakes.

Rick Caldwell
Xenos 0057 26 hrs

Hi Rick

I have the same combination (XENOS + Flyboy’s tailwheel), but still far from flying, thus waiting for your modification to follow you.

Thanks
Carlos


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Re: Flyboys Tailwheel

Postby sonex1374 » Wed Feb 23, 2022 10:55 am

BRS wrote:For wheels/brakes you might consider Matco. I like them very much on my Sonex-A.


Brock,

What model or part numbers are you using? Do they require any adapters for the sonex axles?

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Re: Flyboys Tailwheel

Postby ldmill » Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:13 pm

sonex1374 wrote:
BRS wrote:For wheels/brakes you might consider Matco. I like them very much on my Sonex-A.


Brock,

What model or part numbers are you using? Do they require any adapters for the sonex axles?

Jeff



Hey Jeff,
I also have the Matco wheels/brake and master cylinders I used for differential toe brakes. Matco has a Sonex conversion kit for the wheels that includes an aluminum adaptor. Here's the adaptor kit: http://www.matcomfg.com/ADAPTERKITSONEX ... 32-45.html

I really like this Matco setup, I've been using it since 2012 with no issues. I did weld on an extra bolt ring on the bottom of my Sonex axle assembly to help stabilize them to the adaptor. No brake fade or weakness.
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Re: Flyboys Tailwheel

Postby racaldwell » Sat Feb 26, 2022 10:29 pm

Blake at Flyboys said no parts are available and the weldments are outsourced. In other words, you have to fix your tailwheel on your own.

This is not a big project. Fortunately, I had bought a 2nd hand TIG welder a few months ago and trying to learn how to TIG weld. This seemed like (and was) an easier weld project than the RV-6 gusseted rudder pedals I made last month. Here are the steps and some pictures of how to do this. It is a major improvement in taxiing capability. I can now do a 180 turn on the taxiway.

Here are the dimensions to make the angle change. The bottom length of the socket needs to be cut back to 2-1/8".
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Original & new Dimensions
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After removing the tailwheel and taking it apart, the plastic bushings inside need to be pressed out with a 1" dia. rod and arbor press.

The socket is cut off the tube with a small cut off wheel. I used my Dremel with a 1-1/2" dia. thin cut off wheel that I bought from McM-Carr. A half round file after dremelling the socket to the new dimension get the socket to nest tight to the tube.
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Socket cut off from the tube
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The socket and tube is checked on the tail spring and the end of the titanium spring had to be filed some reuse the same taper pin hole.
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Fit Check
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The socket and tube are clamped on the spring and aligned with the fuselage. They are tacked in place to assure alignment.
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Ready for tack welding
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Once tacked together, the piece is welded. I still have a ways to go to get pretty welds but at least I feel comfortable they are sufficient to do the job.
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Welding complete
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Then epoxy primer and paint to finish it up.

The plastic bushings are re-installed with the arbor press. Before I did this, I wire brushed and sanded out the weld crud from inside the tube. All the parts are reassembled and the steering rod I had made years ago is adjusted longer to fit the new positioning.

Total job including painting took me about 12 hrs. But then I am not known to work fast.
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Completed
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